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		<title>Comment on The Top 30 &#8220;Retuned&#8221; Hymns by Miguel</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/31/the-top-30-retuned-hymns/#comment-1350</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am both a huge fan of hymn &quot;retuning&quot; and a exacting critic.  While most of the above dominates my Ipod, I use only a little of it for worship.  The main reason is that although music of it makes great listening, it often isn&#039;t as accessible for congregational singing.  When it is, it sometimes is just so foreign that its&#039; just more expedient to use the original melody since its what people know.  I&#039;m all about facilitating maximum participation.  Mostly, though, the old melodies are just good.  They take you on a journey, and so they&#039;re pretty hard to improve on.  One &quot;retune,&quot; however, that I really think is a strong contender for &quot;improvement on the original&quot; is Sovereign Grace&#039;s remake of &quot;Oh the Deep, Deep Love of Jesus.&quot;  Probably by Kauflin.  They add a chorus and really make the new melody match the ethos of the text.  The melody is beautiful and quick to catch on to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am both a huge fan of hymn &#8220;retuning&#8221; and a exacting critic.  While most of the above dominates my Ipod, I use only a little of it for worship.  The main reason is that although music of it makes great listening, it often isn&#8217;t as accessible for congregational singing.  When it is, it sometimes is just so foreign that its&#8217; just more expedient to use the original melody since its what people know.  I&#8217;m all about facilitating maximum participation.  Mostly, though, the old melodies are just good.  They take you on a journey, and so they&#8217;re pretty hard to improve on.  One &#8220;retune,&#8221; however, that I really think is a strong contender for &#8220;improvement on the original&#8221; is Sovereign Grace&#8217;s remake of &#8220;Oh the Deep, Deep Love of Jesus.&#8221;  Probably by Kauflin.  They add a chorus and really make the new melody match the ethos of the text.  The melody is beautiful and quick to catch on to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Foundry by Calvin Worship Symposium 2012 &#8211; Reflections &#124; Cardiphonia</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/about/#comment-1347</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Top 30 &#8220;Retuned&#8221; Hymns by AndrewFinden</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/31/the-top-30-retuned-hymns/#comment-1346</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THanks for this list!

I&#039;m a fan of &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.emumusic.com/my-hope-is-built-studio-version&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nicky Chiswell&#039;s setting of My Hope is built&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THanks for this list!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of <a href="http://us.emumusic.com/my-hope-is-built-studio-version" rel="nofollow">Nicky Chiswell&#8217;s setting of My Hope is built</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Top 30 &#8220;Retuned&#8221; Hymns by Kevin Twit</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/31/the-top-30-retuned-hymns/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Twit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Arise my Soul Arise beats many of the ones you listed for IG.  In fact, I have CCLI data to back that up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Arise my Soul Arise beats many of the ones you listed for IG.  In fact, I have CCLI data to back that up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Top 30 &#8220;Retuned&#8221; Hymns by pmershon</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/31/the-top-30-retuned-hymns/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pmershon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One surprising miss is &quot;Arise My Soul, Arise from IG Music.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One surprising miss is &#8220;Arise My Soul, Arise from IG Music.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lent by Worship Service Planning For Ash Wednesday</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/church-year/lent/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Worship Service Planning For Ash Wednesday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For much more, check out the mp3s and other resources for the season of Lent at Cardiphonia, here. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Praise the Savior, Now and Ever by Sunday Hymn &#8211; Praise the Savior Now and Ever &#171; Books and Hymns &#8230; Mostly</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2010/01/14/praise-the-savior-now-and-ever/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sunday Hymn &#8211; Praise the Savior Now and Ever &#171; Books and Hymns &#8230; Mostly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 243 in the Trinity Hymnal, the version here is sung using the melody Holy Manna, from Brethren, We Have Met to Worship, #381. Share [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Observations on the New Hymns Movement, part 3 by bobbygilles (@bobbygilles)</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/25/observations-on-the-new-hymns-movement-part-3/#comment-1337</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that refrains and simple choruses are one way to provide for short, emotive responses to the complex truths often found in hymns. I&#039;m not calling for us to tack on modern choruses to every four-verse hymn, but it works well on occasion. 

I love how you brought in the example of the psalms and the canticles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that refrains and simple choruses are one way to provide for short, emotive responses to the complex truths often found in hymns. I&#8217;m not calling for us to tack on modern choruses to every four-verse hymn, but it works well on occasion. </p>
<p>I love how you brought in the example of the psalms and the canticles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Observations on the New Hymns Movement, part 3 by Greg Scheer</title>
		<link>http://cardiphonia.org/2012/01/25/observations-on-the-new-hymns-movement-part-3/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Scheer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m supposed to be preparing tomorrow&#039;s re:tuned seminar, but instead I&#039;m taking notes from your insightful post. Here are two things that come to mind:

1. When you say &quot;Now obviously music isn’t the only thing in a service providing content and emotional conduits&quot; it makes me think, &quot;Right--we&#039;ve already got a sermon and lots of other word-heavy elements in a service; maybe the songs should be providing relief to all that verbiage rather than adding to it.&quot; I&#039;m going to be thinking about this...

2. Your chart shows everything on a continuum of complex to simple. But it seems to me that there are some things that fall in two ranges simultaneously. For example, lots of Black Gospel could be considered simple in terms of its form and content, but it is complex and multi-layered emotionally. Lots of Western hymns take a simple idea and turn it into four stanzas of unnecessary complexity. The antidote, as you point out, is incorporating a range of repertoires to give a fuller intellectual, emotional, and physical worship experience.

We&#039;ll pick up some of these themes tomorrow morning!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m supposed to be preparing tomorrow&#8217;s re:tuned seminar, but instead I&#8217;m taking notes from your insightful post. Here are two things that come to mind:</p>
<p>1. When you say &#8220;Now obviously music isn’t the only thing in a service providing content and emotional conduits&#8221; it makes me think, &#8220;Right&#8211;we&#8217;ve already got a sermon and lots of other word-heavy elements in a service; maybe the songs should be providing relief to all that verbiage rather than adding to it.&#8221; I&#8217;m going to be thinking about this&#8230;</p>
<p>2. Your chart shows everything on a continuum of complex to simple. But it seems to me that there are some things that fall in two ranges simultaneously. For example, lots of Black Gospel could be considered simple in terms of its form and content, but it is complex and multi-layered emotionally. Lots of Western hymns take a simple idea and turn it into four stanzas of unnecessary complexity. The antidote, as you point out, is incorporating a range of repertoires to give a fuller intellectual, emotional, and physical worship experience.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll pick up some of these themes tomorrow morning!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Observations on the New Hymns Movement, Part 2 by Observations on the New Hymns Movement, part 3 &#124; Cardiphonia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observations on the New Hymns Movement, part 3 &#124; Cardiphonia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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